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all right welcome back to uap studies

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podcast i am louis borges joining me as

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always my good friend and colleague

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jason gilman how's it going my man it's

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going really well it's uh it's been a

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big week eh we've had lots of people

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contacting us and uh we recently

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launched our youtube channel so

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initially we would record a video of the

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podcast but we only released the audio

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now we're going back and editing all

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those uh videos and posting them on

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youtube yeah and the feedback has been

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amazing i mean i can

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i know you've had some people reach out

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to you as well right i i did so people

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on twitter people on instagram and i

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mean we're doing our best to get back to

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people as much as we can and i think

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we've been doing a pretty good job of

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that but uh yeah we're you know it's

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growing definitely the community's

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growing yeah and i can honestly say i

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think we have some of the most polite

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and well-spoken

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commentary we don't really have any

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idiots i've had a few posts that i think

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was spam trying to get me to buy bitcoin

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in russia but other than that it's been

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you guys rock wicked guests we love

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george knapp and uh we i'll approve

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everybody's comments as long as you're

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not spam

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or a total idiot i'll approve the

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comment everyone has their i think it's

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this i think it's this and we need that

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collective thought in order for this to

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keep gaining movement so we're not here

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to censor anyone we keep a humble

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opinion on things ourself we don't know

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nobody's an expert on this but it's that

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discussion that's gonna gonna get us

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towards that so and again for our

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dedicated podcast followers we are on

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youtube now just go to youtube search

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uap studies podcast you'll see our video

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lineup um again it's the full recording

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it's no different than the podcast but

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you get to see the guest and with the

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body language you know you can get a

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little bit more out of that video and if

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you're like my wife that can't focus on

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an hour-long podcast video is a nice

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alternative to that so my wife as well

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she's she has the same thing she has to

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watch the podcast she can't just listen

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to it she gets bored

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so it was funny the other day you're

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like oh my wife came to me and said oh

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honey you know i had a great day i

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listened to a couple of podcasts and you

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said yeah which episodes and she's like

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oh no it was joe rogan he was talking

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with michio kaku yeah

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yeah yeah that hurts a little bit you

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know your hus your your wife saying that

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she got a really good kiss today and

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you're like by who oh it wasn't you

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well thanks hun yeah thanks hun i

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appreciate that i was gonna say we have

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a really great uh guest today that uh

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you've been talking back and forth with

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uh why don't you explain a little bit

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about our guest today yeah so i've seen

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omar lara on a couple shows he was on

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luis elizondo's unidentified the history

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channel program i've seen him on some

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other shows as well and anytime we can

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get somebody from the military who's

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obviously a trained observer has a

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reputation that they're not going to

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just talk about stupid stuff whenever

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perspective and especially as a

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witnesser and somebody with the guts to

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back that she's chief master at arms on

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the princeton and uh that boat was um

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you know significant in the observing

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and recording of the tic tac video while

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omar also had a similar experience on

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the uss nimitz and uh so we're going to

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talk to him about that and he'll explain

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a little bit about what's this what does

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what does he think so without further

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ado i want to welcome to the show uh a

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good friend of ours omar lara

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hello thank you for having me on i

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really appreciate it yeah thank you for

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doing i know you're a busy guy and uh

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you probably have a lot of requests and

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uh we get a lot of requests from people

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wanting to come on the show but we

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wanted to keep a certain level of

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credibility with uh with who we have and

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you definitely meet that bar so so tell

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us a little bit about yourself this is

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your show so uh what is what do our

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listeners need to know about omar lara

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just like anyone else out there

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always looking looking for the

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uap and

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slash ufo phenomenon what this really is

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i guess is if the world is truly uh

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ready to to understand what this is like

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like just like you said in your intro

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we're not experts

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i never say i'm an expert i always get

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did you see an alien and i say no i did

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not i saw

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technology that

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or has been ahead of us for

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time as as we know it you know that

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the maneuverability and the capability

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of that object when it just dropped out

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from the sky and landed about 15 to 40

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feet above the water line

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and shot off to the right made an acute

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angle and exploded right back

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to where it came from

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with no sonic boom

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no noise nothing was just uh

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something that i i can relive

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even as i'm telling the story like i can

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relive

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that moment as well as the birth of my

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children you know what i mean yeah sure

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for sure and to sort of fill in the

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blanks so for those of you who have seen

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the tic tac video it's the navy fighter

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jets uh infrared footage of it but sort

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of the back story of that is you guys

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were doing was it like like war drills

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or just simulations out there is that

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what yes we were preparing to head back

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into the persian gulf and it was either

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com2x or jtfx i kind of mix up the two

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since 2017 from my initial interview

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what i've learned is that

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we had an entire week of these objects

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dropping in and out of our sky

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coming in from the malibu area and i've

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only known that from listening and

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talking to mr kevin day

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who i was actually associated with but

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being so large in the battle group i

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never saw him you know he was on a small

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so from what i'm here that was the

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entire week and i was not privy to any

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of the radar sightings or anything

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you know i'm just a i was just a kid out

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on my for four to five years into the

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running around the flight deck dodging

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in a safe manner and no one gets killed

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the chief yeah yes i haven't listened to

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that gentleman yeah yeah so and he was

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on our show super well spoken very

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intelligent guy very believable guy i

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don't think he embellished anything he's

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about as humble as it gets but um that

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that ship had brand new state-of-the-art

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radar systems installed on it and again

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if the military is going to spend a

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fortune on new gear it's going to have

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more layers of detection than the old

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gear so maybe because of that they

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actually saw these on radar that they

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never could before or who knows maybe

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they just got lucky but yeah yeah they

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have seen they've seen these radar

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tracks there's been reports and all that

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finally they got tired of it and

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just an anomaly or glitchy new equipment

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something here and they scrambled the

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jets and that's the footage everybody's

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familiar with and uh but again tell us

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about your incident because your

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incident happened a couple days later or

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within the same week after that like

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there was a man overboard and so tell us

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a little bit about that story yes so

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as i always say if i recall correctly i

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do know that it was the last night of

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our operations for that training

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due to the fact that all the jets had uh

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basically flown off the aircraft carrier

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they'll fly off and go back to their

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home base and they leave one jet behind

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and he's like the alert six and he's

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just basically like our watch standard

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no one is flying in our vicinity as

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we're heading back into our home poor

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so a man overboard that was called off

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and during that time everything is kind

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of lackadaisical

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the elevators were being lowered down

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and the sailor had fallen overboard

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once the sailor falls overboard

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you really have to

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report within

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you know 10 minutes the entire ship so

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they can know exactly who's out there

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and if one guys

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doesn't get

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his name called or he doesn't report in

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they know for sure it's an actual man

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overboard but we actually saw this guy

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like we went over to the deck edge

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and we saw this guy like floating out

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and the current took him way out

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and that is the only reason why we saw

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this thing which

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i've never said his name on any other

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show but his name is rick palmer i've

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actually spoken to him via text we

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haven't talked live yet

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he was next to me with

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another guy i won't say his name yet

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because i'm still trying to season him

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and that is the only reason why we saw

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this object just drop out of the sky

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because we were looking in that vicinity

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because if we weren't looking we would

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have never seen it no one would have

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ever seen it

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and it dropped out

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to 50 feet above the water line

278
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zoom back off

279
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it lasted about eight to 15 seconds so

280
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if you're staring at the night sky for

281
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eight to fifteen seconds that's a long

282
00:10:08,230 --> 00:10:06,000
time yeah yeah yeah what size was uh

283
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this object like if you had to gauge how

284
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big this thing was i've always got this

285
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from

286
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a great i guess analogy or description

287
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of it was from dave beatty he asked me

288
00:10:20,470 --> 00:10:18,720
if he held a quarter up to the night sky

289
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how big was that well it was exactly the

290
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size of a quarter compared to the stars

291
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right

292
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so roughly that's pretty big

293
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and it if it was in the daytime i would

294
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say maybe the size of an h53 which is

295
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one of our large largest helos

296
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on board uh aircraft carriers yeah and

297
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it maneuvered like that at that speed

298
00:10:43,269 --> 00:10:41,839
oh faster it was

299
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it was

300
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i mean i i always i can't really

301
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describe

302
00:10:50,870 --> 00:10:48,959
anything else

303
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to as fast and so forth whenever someone

304
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always tells me hey something's that

305
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fast

306
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i always think to myself

307
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it's not that fast you know because i

308
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think of just this thing dropping

309
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playing itself

310
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for those eight to 15 seconds and then

311
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just shooting right back off to the

312
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right stopping on a dime again

313
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and then sh making this like an acute

314
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angle not a 90 degree more of an acute

315
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and shooting right back off with this

316
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trajectory where

317
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it just started traversing the sky and

318
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then all of a sudden it got so point up

319
00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:23,600
at high that it just disappeared and it

320
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was it was gone

321
00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:26,320
yeah and you're in the middle of the

322
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ocean at that point it's pitch black

323
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everywhere

324
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you can see this thing very clearly

325
00:11:35,269 --> 00:11:33,120
maneuvering like that so that's

326
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what does that do to you as you're

327
00:11:39,430 --> 00:11:37,040
witnessing this does that put together

328
00:11:41,910 --> 00:11:39,440
all the e.t movies we've seen as a kid

329
00:11:43,910 --> 00:11:41,920
and sort of go they're real or as a

330
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military person are you kind of going

331
00:11:48,069 --> 00:11:45,360
we're [\h__\h]

332
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at that moment

333
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in

334
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even the guy who had the spotlight on

335
00:12:02,389 --> 00:11:58,959
the sailor overboard he illuminated this

336
00:12:03,990 --> 00:12:02,399
object as well so he saw it there too

337
00:12:05,910 --> 00:12:04,000
right

338
00:12:07,670 --> 00:12:05,920
but when it happened so fast between

339
00:12:11,269 --> 00:12:07,680
those

340
00:12:12,870 --> 00:12:11,279
you know 15 seconds we're conditioned in

341
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the service to

342
00:12:16,069 --> 00:12:14,639
react

343
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and at that moment when you see

344
00:12:19,509 --> 00:12:17,760
something like that it's just so so real

345
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just happened so fast

346
00:12:25,750 --> 00:12:22,240
but as soon as it took off our alarm

347
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systems went off for a general quarters

348
00:12:30,310 --> 00:12:28,320
when i heard that it

349
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you just go right back into

350
00:12:33,350 --> 00:12:32,079
you know your condition i don't say

351
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brain what will your brain watch

352
00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:34,639
basically yeah

353
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that's what

354
00:12:40,230 --> 00:12:38,639
military is yeah exactly

355
00:12:43,030 --> 00:12:40,240
and

356
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i do remember thinking wow

357
00:12:47,829 --> 00:12:45,760
our radar system saw this thing

358
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they saw this

359
00:12:52,870 --> 00:12:50,800
but i went back to my battle station i

360
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gathered my crew

361
00:12:57,590 --> 00:12:55,120
did our little maintenance thing and by

362
00:12:59,829 --> 00:12:57,600
the time actually by the time

363
00:13:01,430 --> 00:12:59,839
they called battle stations and to clear

364
00:13:02,790 --> 00:13:01,440
all flight deck non-essential flight

365
00:13:03,829 --> 00:13:02,800
deck personnel because they were going

366
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to launch

367
00:13:08,150 --> 00:13:06,800
the jet aircraft that was on standby

368
00:13:11,829 --> 00:13:08,160
because this thing got within our

369
00:13:14,710 --> 00:13:11,839
vicinity quick and exited fast

370
00:13:17,590 --> 00:13:14,720
um that was about maybe

371
00:13:19,030 --> 00:13:17,600
another 20 seconds in between right and

372
00:13:20,870 --> 00:13:19,040
it was done they called them up they

373
00:13:22,470 --> 00:13:20,880
called them both off the general

374
00:13:26,230 --> 00:13:22,480
quarters

375
00:13:28,389 --> 00:13:26,240
and for the alert six to be launched

376
00:13:31,670 --> 00:13:28,399
and then that's when um

377
00:13:33,190 --> 00:13:31,680
uh we went back to uh our uh

378
00:13:34,710 --> 00:13:33,200
maintenance office and that's when i

379
00:13:37,990 --> 00:13:34,720
spoke to uh

380
00:13:39,750 --> 00:13:38,000
i referred to him as jd and then um

381
00:13:41,670 --> 00:13:39,760
rick palmer

382
00:13:44,389 --> 00:13:41,680
and we had a few conversations like you

383
00:13:45,990 --> 00:13:44,399
know what was that and jd was like i

384
00:13:47,269 --> 00:13:46,000
remember him saying you don't believe in

385
00:13:49,030 --> 00:13:47,279
that stuff too

386
00:13:50,949 --> 00:13:49,040
that was the first thing he said and i

387
00:13:53,110 --> 00:13:50,959
was like

388
00:13:55,350 --> 00:13:53,120
i don't know man i i think i guess i i

389
00:13:58,230 --> 00:13:55,360
do now right yeah

390
00:14:01,509 --> 00:13:58,240
seeing is believing right yes

391
00:14:03,670 --> 00:14:01,519
and he was always saying you know that's

392
00:14:05,910 --> 00:14:03,680
russian or chinese

393
00:14:09,430 --> 00:14:05,920
and i've said this many times i replied

394
00:14:11,509 --> 00:14:09,440
to him i said that's russian or chinese

395
00:14:14,310 --> 00:14:11,519
like you said earlier we're [\h__\h] we're

396
00:14:17,990 --> 00:14:14,320
no longer one of the premier superpowers

397
00:14:20,150 --> 00:14:18,000
for air power on the globe on the planet

398
00:14:21,670 --> 00:14:20,160
because whatever that is if it's chinese

399
00:14:23,910 --> 00:14:21,680
or russian

400
00:14:25,829 --> 00:14:23,920
we should have been done years ago

401
00:14:28,230 --> 00:14:25,839
because this thing's just so advanced

402
00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:28,240
yeah yeah and why you know they're at

403
00:14:32,790 --> 00:14:30,240
war right now with ukraine you think

404
00:14:33,990 --> 00:14:32,800
some of that technology if they had it

405
00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:34,000
would be

406
00:14:38,150 --> 00:14:35,760
showcased or in a new war and they

407
00:14:40,230 --> 00:14:38,160
haven't showcased anything like that but

408
00:14:42,069 --> 00:14:40,240
russia has its own problems with uaps

409
00:14:44,069 --> 00:14:42,079
china has their own problems with uaps

410
00:14:45,430 --> 00:14:44,079
because it's a global problem and

411
00:14:47,910 --> 00:14:45,440
they're probably thinking on the other

412
00:14:49,110 --> 00:14:47,920
side it's probably america or russia and

413
00:14:51,110 --> 00:14:49,120
then russia is probably thinking it's

414
00:14:53,189 --> 00:14:51,120
probably america or the chinese that's a

415
00:14:54,949 --> 00:14:53,199
real property like world war ii the foo

416
00:14:56,629 --> 00:14:54,959
fighters yeah they thought it was german

417
00:14:58,069 --> 00:14:56,639
germans thought it was ally yeah i was

418
00:14:59,990 --> 00:14:58,079
thinking it's each other's stuff and

419
00:15:02,069 --> 00:15:00,000
it's neither yeah but they're very i've

420
00:15:04,550 --> 00:15:02,079
always wondered whether or not uh north

421
00:15:06,790 --> 00:15:04,560
korea has their problems with being

422
00:15:10,069 --> 00:15:06,800
because they're always launching nukes

423
00:15:12,389 --> 00:15:10,079
yeah testing stuff i'm sure he

424
00:15:14,150 --> 00:15:12,399
he probably thinks it's us or you know

425
00:15:15,509 --> 00:15:14,160
he probably knows whoa

426
00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:15,519
i've been having these problems since

427
00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:18,720
maybe the 50s or 60s yeah it's it's a

428
00:15:21,670 --> 00:15:20,320
global problem and the thing is what's

429
00:15:23,030 --> 00:15:21,680
more interesting now is that they're

430
00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:23,040
getting bold

431
00:15:26,870 --> 00:15:24,720
approaching ships

432
00:15:28,310 --> 00:15:26,880
that are in the oceans i know the ships

433
00:15:29,910 --> 00:15:28,320
have changed recently you probably know

434
00:15:31,430 --> 00:15:29,920
this a lot more than i do but there's a

435
00:15:34,310 --> 00:15:31,440
lot of nuclear

436
00:15:36,310 --> 00:15:34,320
powered ships now uh out there and they

437
00:15:38,790 --> 00:15:36,320
seem to be very much attracted to

438
00:15:40,550 --> 00:15:38,800
nuclear power and nuclear ships

439
00:15:42,470 --> 00:15:40,560
but to be i've learned that too yeah

440
00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:42,480
you're right yeah most submarines are

441
00:15:46,230 --> 00:15:44,160
nuclear powered then they can stay

442
00:15:47,509 --> 00:15:46,240
underwater for infinite amount of time

443
00:15:50,230 --> 00:15:47,519
just because of that

444
00:15:52,069 --> 00:15:50,240
i didn't get to uh understand that fact

445
00:15:54,870 --> 00:15:52,079
until

446
00:15:57,430 --> 00:15:54,880
i uh you know after 2017 i thought it

447
00:15:59,509 --> 00:15:57,440
was just an isolated incident but

448
00:16:01,110 --> 00:15:59,519
more more comes out

449
00:16:03,110 --> 00:16:01,120
it's gonna probably be harder to get

450
00:16:04,629 --> 00:16:03,120
anything out of the subs the surface

451
00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:04,639
navy that area

452
00:16:08,470 --> 00:16:06,160
they're not gonna release anything but

453
00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:08,480
i'm sure they have these problems

454
00:16:16,470 --> 00:16:14,310
yeah you had a friend as well witnessed

455
00:16:18,389 --> 00:16:16,480
this with you uh you called me about a

456
00:16:20,629 --> 00:16:18,399
week ago and said hey i have somebody

457
00:16:21,670 --> 00:16:20,639
i'm retired now i'm hoping maybe they

458
00:16:23,670 --> 00:16:21,680
could

459
00:16:25,749 --> 00:16:23,680
share their story but there's still

460
00:16:27,509 --> 00:16:25,759
quite a bit of fear and uh you know a

461
00:16:29,269 --> 00:16:27,519
lot of a lot of people on the outside

462
00:16:32,310 --> 00:16:29,279
think hey we have disclosure now we saw

463
00:16:34,389 --> 00:16:32,320
the video we see luis elizondo were

464
00:16:36,629 --> 00:16:34,399
there but no

465
00:16:39,269 --> 00:16:36,639
and so either from i mean you look at

466
00:16:40,790 --> 00:16:39,279
kevin day uh we recently uh interviewed

467
00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:40,800
caroline cory about her new movie at

468
00:16:45,910 --> 00:16:43,279
tear in the sky and we talked about he

469
00:16:47,749 --> 00:16:45,920
looks noticeably shaken from his whole

470
00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:47,759
experience it just messed with his head

471
00:16:51,269 --> 00:16:49,279
and it

472
00:16:53,590 --> 00:16:51,279
sort of made it worse and become almost

473
00:16:55,829 --> 00:16:53,600
like a downward spiral so i'm glad you

474
00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:55,839
brought that up i totally forgot soon

475
00:17:01,110 --> 00:16:57,360
after we went in

476
00:17:03,269 --> 00:17:01,120
after they called off the uh fly deck uh

477
00:17:04,710 --> 00:17:03,279
to launch the alert six and the general

478
00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:04,720
quarters

479
00:17:07,990 --> 00:17:06,640
i went back into the flight deck control

480
00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:08,000
area

481
00:17:12,309 --> 00:17:10,000
to basically go back into business mode

482
00:17:13,829 --> 00:17:12,319
and talk to our fuelie who's in the

483
00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:13,839
flight deck control and let them know

484
00:17:18,150 --> 00:17:15,280
what

485
00:17:21,189 --> 00:17:18,160
fuel stations are being worked on you

486
00:17:22,710 --> 00:17:21,199
know what's going to be used to defuel

487
00:17:23,909 --> 00:17:22,720
something or

488
00:17:25,750 --> 00:17:23,919
basically

489
00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:25,760
reclaim fuel

490
00:17:29,270 --> 00:17:27,280
i can go in debt but it's kind of hard

491
00:17:30,630 --> 00:17:29,280
to explain to

492
00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:30,640
and um

493
00:17:34,070 --> 00:17:32,480
i remember uh

494
00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:34,080
i've always tried to find this guy but i

495
00:17:36,789 --> 00:17:35,440
just could not get

496
00:17:38,710 --> 00:17:36,799
hold of him

497
00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:38,720
a yellow shirt walked in and the yellow

498
00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:40,960
shirt is one that handles the aircraft

499
00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:43,120
movement on the deck he walks in and he

500
00:17:47,270 --> 00:17:45,440
says what the [\h__\h] was that

501
00:17:49,190 --> 00:17:47,280
and i turned around to look at him and i

502
00:17:51,669 --> 00:17:49,200
was actually kind of laughing like oh

503
00:17:53,909 --> 00:17:51,679
man he saw this too

504
00:17:57,190 --> 00:17:53,919
and i saw another sailor

505
00:17:59,510 --> 00:17:57,200
uh sitting down and he was in prayer

506
00:18:01,190 --> 00:17:59,520
and he had this look on his face

507
00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:01,200
he was just

508
00:18:06,070 --> 00:18:03,280
he was scared

509
00:18:09,350 --> 00:18:06,080
so you're right you know it

510
00:18:11,669 --> 00:18:09,360
you see something like this it kind of

511
00:18:13,430 --> 00:18:11,679
so if all us three got together and we

512
00:18:15,350 --> 00:18:13,440
saw this that night we'd probably be

513
00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:15,360
like wow look at that now

514
00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:18,160
with all the information that we have

515
00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:20,160
and that we you know we're basically

516
00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:22,160
embedded with this stuff

517
00:18:26,830 --> 00:18:24,000
but if you get the general public who's

518
00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:26,840
not part of our subculture

519
00:18:30,870 --> 00:18:28,720
uh they're gonna have different

520
00:18:32,549 --> 00:18:30,880
reactions they're gonna get scared

521
00:18:35,110 --> 00:18:32,559
and

522
00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:35,120
that's why i don't think

523
00:18:39,430 --> 00:18:38,160
entirely everyone is ready yeah

524
00:18:41,029 --> 00:18:39,440
yeah because there's people that you

525
00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:41,039
work with that even if they experience

526
00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:42,400
the same thing that you've experienced

527
00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:43,200
with

528
00:18:47,270 --> 00:18:45,360
you know they can dismiss it some people

529
00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:47,280
dismiss it very easily

530
00:18:50,789 --> 00:18:48,960
because it doesn't fit the narrative or

531
00:18:51,990 --> 00:18:50,799
whatever point of views they have in

532
00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:52,000
life

533
00:18:55,350 --> 00:18:53,520
that would apply to the people that

534
00:18:56,950 --> 00:18:55,360
serve on the ship along with you i know

535
00:18:59,110 --> 00:18:56,960
kevin day was

536
00:19:00,789 --> 00:18:59,120
he said his career pretty much ended

537
00:19:02,789 --> 00:19:00,799
because you know he was being teased all

538
00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:02,799
the time people calling him the ufo guy

539
00:19:07,110 --> 00:19:05,200
but to him this was a legitimate like

540
00:19:08,630 --> 00:19:07,120
this is a huge deal and it is a huge

541
00:19:10,630 --> 00:19:08,640
deal the fact that

542
00:19:11,830 --> 00:19:10,640
the biggest military in the world you

543
00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:11,840
know they think about how much

544
00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:14,880
technology and power are on these ships

545
00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:16,720
experience these

546
00:19:21,750 --> 00:19:19,360
crafts that either follow the the navy

547
00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:21,760
ships or does maneuvers the way that you

548
00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:23,360
do but all within the vicinity of the

549
00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:26,400
navy ship that is a huge deal and the

550
00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:28,320
fact that it hasn't been really you know

551
00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:30,320
it's being brought to light now

552
00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:32,000
but it can't just be the navy it's got

553
00:19:34,950 --> 00:19:33,280
to be the air force as well the air

554
00:19:36,549 --> 00:19:34,960
force has got to be having encounters

555
00:19:38,549 --> 00:19:36,559
like that too of course we don't hear

556
00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:38,559
anything we don't hear anything from the

557
00:19:43,190 --> 00:19:40,320
air force though no no i never heard

558
00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:43,200
anything no no um but yeah you figured

559
00:19:46,070 --> 00:19:44,400
that they have the same problem it's

560
00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:46,080
only the navy that's really come out and

561
00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:47,760
said hey we we're having an issue with

562
00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:50,160
this legitimate issue with these things

563
00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:52,400
so i'm waiting to hear from from the air

564
00:19:56,150 --> 00:19:54,960
force i don't know if we will or not but

565
00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:56,160
it would be nice to hear that they were

566
00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:58,000
having the same issue right

567
00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:00,400
yes uh that tear in the sky i spoke to

568
00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:02,559
miss uh caroline corey young lady over

569
00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:05,280
the phone and via email i believe

570
00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:07,520
she asked me to be on a show

571
00:20:10,630 --> 00:20:08,799
and our

572
00:20:13,190 --> 00:20:10,640
my time difference i think we were still

573
00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:13,200
in covet or towards the end of it

574
00:20:16,710 --> 00:20:15,280
and the filming and

575
00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:16,720
i had already burned

576
00:20:20,549 --> 00:20:19,280
uh vacation time and i think the weekend

577
00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:20,559
that they asked me to fly out to

578
00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:22,559
california for them

579
00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:24,720
i was on one of your weekend shifts and

580
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:26,640
it was there was no way we already had

581
00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:29,280
like five guys down coveted and

582
00:20:34,070 --> 00:20:31,760
well it wasn't gonna happen but i've

583
00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:34,080
heard great reviews of it and once the

584
00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:36,799
kids go to sleep and i get some time

585
00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:39,280
that's that thing yeah it was amazing

586
00:20:43,110 --> 00:20:41,120
because they basically replicated that

587
00:20:45,510 --> 00:20:43,120
same tic tac phenomenon you know

588
00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:45,520
something coming from a suborbital level

589
00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:47,840
dropping right above the water line in

590
00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:49,200
like an instant

591
00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:50,480
i mean we're talking something that

592
00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:53,520
would have what 200 or more g's uh the

593
00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:55,840
speeds they clocked were like eight to

594
00:20:59,669 --> 00:20:58,000
eighty thousand miles an hour i mean

595
00:21:02,310 --> 00:20:59,679
this is like

596
00:21:03,750 --> 00:21:02,320
on a radar pardon me did they get the

597
00:21:08,549 --> 00:21:03,760
visual

598
00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:08,559
had a genius on there a guy named david

599
00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:11,520
mason who invented special technology

600
00:21:14,390 --> 00:21:13,200
just to be able to observe this type of

601
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:14,400
thing better

602
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:16,400
he took like a telescope

603
00:21:20,549 --> 00:21:18,400
that would see a light and it would turn

604
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:20,559
it into a waveform so because there's

605
00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:22,480
way more detail in that waveform than

606
00:21:27,669 --> 00:21:24,720
just the light so like we don't know if

607
00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:27,679
it's a plane if it's a star whatever but

608
00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:29,440
his machine would give it a unique

609
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:32,159
signature so now every single plane

610
00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:33,760
would show up and the computer would

611
00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:37,039
recognize that's a 747. that's a 737

612
00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:38,880
because it's a smaller one and he

613
00:21:43,750 --> 00:21:41,280
basically so they they were able to weed

614
00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:43,760
out all of the known things so that

615
00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:45,440
nobody could say oh that was just a

616
00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:47,760
plane or that was some kind of cosmic

617
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:50,159
phenomenon oh wow that's beautiful yeah

618
00:21:54,789 --> 00:21:53,039
like they the private sector

619
00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:54,799
yeah people are spending money on this

620
00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:57,440
now and inventing technology so because

621
00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:59,200
again and we mentioned that when we had

622
00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:01,360
those guys on the show too that good for

623
00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:02,880
you for doing that because i mean the

624
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:04,799
government has stuff but if you think

625
00:22:07,750 --> 00:22:06,400
that real disclosure is going to come

626
00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:07,760
from them

627
00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:09,919
either they can't or they won't because

628
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:11,760
it implicates them over the last 80

629
00:22:16,149 --> 00:22:14,400
years of just lying flat out lying

630
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:16,159
destroying some people's careers

631
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:18,320
everything people has been suspecting

632
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:20,000
would be true if they just come out and

633
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:22,320
say yeah you're right so they're never

634
00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:23,840
going to do that and it's almost like a

635
00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:25,760
gradual one day they'll just be kind of

636
00:22:29,669 --> 00:22:28,400
like yeah we're just as surprised as you

637
00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:29,679
they're never going to acknowledge all

638
00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:31,520
the stuff that they've been keeping i

639
00:22:35,669 --> 00:22:33,679
think you know what omar we were talking

640
00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:35,679
about this we're saying about the new

641
00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:37,520
uap task force

642
00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:39,200
if anything happens you know they would

643
00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:41,039
be the ones that would show up and and

644
00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:44,080
interrogate or investigate the case

645
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:46,400
but in the case of even the nimitz i

646
00:22:50,549 --> 00:22:48,159
believe somebody was mentioning how

647
00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:50,559
within 20 minutes a helicopter landed on

648
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:53,039
deck two civilian looking men came out

649
00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:54,960
they grabbed all the tapes or whatever

650
00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:56,799
the recordings were

651
00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:59,520
and took off again right so that was the

652
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:01,280
organization that was already in place

653
00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:03,360
taking care of these sort of sightings

654
00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:05,520
and evidence they're going to butt heads

655
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:07,360
eventually with the people from the uap

656
00:23:11,669 --> 00:23:09,840
task force because that group did not go

657
00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:11,679
away you know they're still behind the

658
00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:13,360
scenes now it's just they're going to

659
00:23:16,870 --> 00:23:14,960
have to contend with the new group and

660
00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:16,880
are they going to play ball with them

661
00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:18,880
i don't think so but you know there's

662
00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:20,720
people that want to keep this quiet as

663
00:23:24,789 --> 00:23:22,880
long as possible and people in the

664
00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:24,799
senate now or congress that want to

665
00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:26,480
bring this to light so

666
00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:28,159
we're kind of that weird

667
00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:30,480
weird period where there's going to be

668
00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:32,320
i don't think friction but definitely

669
00:23:35,909 --> 00:23:33,600
head-to-head

670
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:35,919
competition for the information

671
00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:38,320
definitely i remember that i was uh pj

672
00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:39,919
hughes uh

673
00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:41,600
geez we were on the nimitz together for

674
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:44,000
over three and a half years uh i never

675
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:45,360
met him

676
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:47,520
and we worked on the flight deck

677
00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:49,279
that's just how vast it is but i

678
00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:51,919
remember he got so much blow back for

679
00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:54,159
for saying that these gentlemen came on

680
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:56,480
board took his tapes

681
00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:59,039
i believe i'm he was validated if i'm

682
00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:01,520
correct yeah he was validated yeah yeah

683
00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:02,880
and that group's still out there like

684
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:04,880
that group didn't you know just uh

685
00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:06,400
dissolve or anything they're still out

686
00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:08,480
there doing what they do but

687
00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:09,679
you know it's going to be a lot tougher

688
00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:11,679
for them to do that now and like

689
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:13,520
people like yourselves from the military

690
00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:15,360
and from the navy you know from the air

691
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:16,960
force that are coming out and saying hey

692
00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:18,960
actually we we're witnessing this while

693
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:20,559
we're in service

694
00:24:25,029 --> 00:24:22,559
that is a huge deal right because you

695
00:24:26,470 --> 00:24:25,039
guys are out there to protect

696
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:26,480
uh you know

697
00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:28,320
the world pretty much from you know

698
00:24:31,990 --> 00:24:30,400
other attacks and if you are the top

699
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:32,000
military and you're going we can't

700
00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:34,240
compete with this technology

701
00:24:37,990 --> 00:24:35,919
that's caused from concern a little bit

702
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:38,000
for the population right saying

703
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:39,440
there's nothing really we can do about

704
00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:41,039
it if these things decide to just show

705
00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:43,360
up in a neighborhood one day

706
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:44,960
that's pretty much it that's all we can

707
00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:46,720
do right we could just be yeah it's just

708
00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:48,640
important it's something more powerful

709
00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:49,919
than like

710
00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:52,240
mankind right you know we've

711
00:24:57,430 --> 00:24:53,440
come from

712
00:24:59,750 --> 00:24:57,440
being nomads to our technology and this

713
00:25:01,510 --> 00:24:59,760
thing is still ahead of us or whatever

714
00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:01,520
that is that's still ahead of us and

715
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:03,360
it's always been ahead of us

716
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:05,520
yeah i hear whether or not you know

717
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:07,679
maybe they've been indigenous to our

718
00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:09,840
planet i've listened

719
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:10,960
uh

720
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:17,360
he talked about how pluto's theory

721
00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:19,440
that it was a hominid species so you

722
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:20,159
know

723
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:21,760
it's a beautiful thing to always just

724
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:24,960
speculate what this is and all but the

725
00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:26,640
honest truth

726
00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:28,640
it's just a technology that they have

727
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:31,039
that just surpasses anything on this

728
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:33,520
planet yeah and do you think especially

729
00:25:37,909 --> 00:25:35,919
with the nukes and they shut down dr

730
00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:37,919
roberts uh

731
00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:39,120
robert

732
00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:40,400
yeah yeah

733
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:42,000
yep for sure he's the first guy to go on

734
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:44,559
a record saying that he he was awoken by

735
00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:47,520
his sub uh i guess his uh officer below

736
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:49,120
his rank and because they couldn't

737
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:50,559
figure it out and they're only supposed

738
00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:52,159
to wake him if it's like a dire

739
00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:54,400
emergency and they felt that it was that

740
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:56,480
night you know yes

741
00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:58,159
we'll turn off the nukes and turn them

742
00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:00,080
back off again without actually having

743
00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:02,400
to be inside the facility yeah and they

744
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:03,679
couldn't even do that they were all

745
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:05,679
individually wired and circuited so that

746
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:07,840
if one went down it didn't necessarily

747
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:10,000
mean they all would in fact you couldn't

748
00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:11,760
shut them all down there was fail safes

749
00:26:16,789 --> 00:26:14,159
against that so whatever was doing it

750
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:16,799
was trying to show them that your

751
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:19,440
very advanced level security is child's

752
00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:22,799
play we could turn them off turn them on

753
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:26,080
think twice absolutely it reminds me of

754
00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:29,120
a movie growing up was the abyss

755
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:30,000
yes

756
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:31,919
oh you remember okay great was your best

757
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:34,480
yep yeah i kind of you know aged myself

758
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:37,440
with that movie i mean i think i was

759
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:40,640
10 years old when that came out

760
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:42,640
and it was just this uh underwater

761
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:44,400
entity that was uh

762
00:26:48,789 --> 00:26:46,480
interested in the new

763
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:48,799
power that we had and uh

764
00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:50,720
you know as all this starts coming out

765
00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:52,320
and i listen more it just kind of

766
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:54,640
reminds me that the abyss and i kind of

767
00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:56,240
always get asked like what did you

768
00:26:59,190 --> 00:26:57,919
believe in growing up and i was just

769
00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:59,200
like well

770
00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:00,559
my favorite

771
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:03,120
uh alien movie was always the predator

772
00:27:06,149 --> 00:27:04,159
yeah

773
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:06,159
and i hope it was i hope that guy

774
00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:07,760
whatever was in that cockpit or that

775
00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:08,640
thing

776
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:10,480
isn't the predator right because

777
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:11,360
yeah

778
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:17,039
think these things um at this point like

779
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:18,640
what's your feeling towards it do you

780
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:20,480
think that it's a possible threat do you

781
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,799
think it there's no threats there

782
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:24,559
like as a person served in the military

783
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:26,799
for 10 years like what would your

784
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:30,000
opinion be on this at this point

785
00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:34,480
with a military background i would say

786
00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:36,480
probably gonna get a little

787
00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:38,480
blow back for this

788
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:40,159
if you have the

789
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:44,320
the strongest capability on the yard

790
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:46,240
you're gonna always be a threat right

791
00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:48,720
you know it can always

792
00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:50,399
the fact that they are

793
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:53,919
turning off uh nuclear capabilities

794
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:56,080
i could see now if i was the top person

795
00:28:00,789 --> 00:27:58,559
and that thing shut off our nukes

796
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:00,799
i would say hey that's that's a threat

797
00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:04,320
you know you know i i've listened to uh

798
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:05,520
you know it's like that what is it mr

799
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:08,000
elizondo says the muddy

800
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:10,320
boot prints buddy

801
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:12,000
muddy boot prints you know you wake up

802
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:14,159
one day and you see these boot print

803
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:15,600
marks in your home

804
00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:17,679
yeah but nothing is broken nothing is

805
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:19,760
stolen but yeah but you knew somebody

806
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:22,320
was in there yeah yeah

807
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:24,720
so yes uh

808
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:26,000
but it

809
00:28:28,870 --> 00:28:27,600
if it is a threat they could have done

810
00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:28,880
it years

811
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:30,960
millennials ago that's my thoughts if

812
00:28:35,269 --> 00:28:33,120
they wanted to enslave us or just take

813
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:35,279
over why do they have to toy with us we

814
00:28:38,549 --> 00:28:36,799
don't toy with an animal that we're

815
00:28:40,789 --> 00:28:38,559
about to slaughter and butcher to

816
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:40,799
consume right

817
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:42,240
it's very

818
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:47,120
that's a nice way to put it i guess but

819
00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:49,440
if they wanted to they could and jason

820
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:51,120
always says you know if they're

821
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:52,559
abducting people

822
00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:54,720
just for experimental purposes and they

823
00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:57,039
don't have any sort of heart within them

824
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:58,720
they would just shoot us out the airlock

825
00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:00,159
they wouldn't bring you back and tuck

826
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:03,200
you in bed nicely and maybe erase some

827
00:29:07,029 --> 00:29:05,120
of your memories so it didn't traumatize

828
00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:07,039
you so sometimes it seems to have a

829
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:09,360
little bit of benevolence and a lot of

830
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:12,240
abductee survivors they some of them say

831
00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:14,960
that it felt like a warning or some type

832
00:29:19,669 --> 00:29:17,840
of a conversation but they didn't have

833
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:19,679
threats of we're going to kill you we're

834
00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:21,039
going to take over

835
00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:23,360
very few people that you hear from that

836
00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:24,480
are legit

837
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:26,640
actually say that more of them say

838
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:29,520
it felt neither good or bad or it had

839
00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:31,840
kind of a positive upswing to it and

840
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:33,440
then some people it just messes them

841
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:35,039
right up you mentioned your friend that

842
00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:37,039
was praying kevin day didn't know what

843
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:39,200
to make of it and then you know it can

844
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:41,360
be a downward spiral for some people

845
00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:43,440
because of that because it's it changes

846
00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:46,159
everything you thought was possible

847
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:48,559
absolutely and the beauty of it i

848
00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:51,679
haven't really dubbed into the uh

849
00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:53,919
abduction but i have listened to the

850
00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:56,480
children from the uh i get the

851
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:58,880
adults now from the aerial school yeah

852
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:01,200
yeah we interviewed the the executive

853
00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:03,360
producer of that randall nickerson and

854
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:05,039
yeah to this day those kids are all in

855
00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:07,120
their 20s or 30s now and they're still

856
00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:08,799
saying the same the same thing right

857
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:11,919
nothing's changed yeah wow wow

858
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:13,760
what's weird about that too is the

859
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:15,760
consciousness aspect of these crafts

860
00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:17,120
like there's there seems to be a

861
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:19,279
consciousness to them so the way that

862
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:21,120
they move the way that they behave like

863
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:23,760
you know fighter pilots control the

864
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:25,919
plane but it's with their you know the

865
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:28,320
joystick or or you know just the buttons

866
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,760
that everything like that these things

867
00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:31,679
seem to operate on almost like just a

868
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:33,600
thought like i want to be here and

869
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:35,120
you're there and i want to be here and

870
00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:36,960
you're there right like it's just

871
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:39,440
it's got this fluid motion to it that is

872
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:42,080
different than our technology uh

873
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,000
lou already knows this but when i was a

874
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:46,480
kid i seen one up close like 80 feet

875
00:30:50,070 --> 00:30:47,760
above my head

876
00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:50,080
and that was like solidified it for me

877
00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:52,080
that was like everything that people

878
00:30:55,909 --> 00:30:53,279
have said

879
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:55,919
is true the buggers are here and it was

880
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:58,960
this very sort of like

881
00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:00,799
oh wow like look at this thing look at

882
00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:02,720
the maneuvers that it's doing

883
00:31:06,549 --> 00:31:04,799
like it wasn't a big shock at the time

884
00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:06,559
but now that i think it was like holy

885
00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:09,200
crap like that was amazing to witness

886
00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:11,039
so i figure it's the same for you is

887
00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:13,519
this an amazing experience

888
00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:15,200
not threatening at the time like you're

889
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:16,480
not you don't feel threatened or

890
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:18,799
anything but you just walk away from it

891
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:20,399
going what the hell was that because

892
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:23,760
that absolutely that is uncommon right

893
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:25,600
it is i that's

894
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:27,440
good description i mean

895
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:30,320
it had no yaw or pitch to it it was just

896
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:32,559
instantaneously like you said

897
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:34,880
it wanted to be there

898
00:31:40,070 --> 00:31:37,039
it got there and it took off when it

899
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:40,080
wanted obviously just like any man-made

900
00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:41,600
aircraft but you're gonna have to have

901
00:31:45,669 --> 00:31:43,760
acceleration and this power and this

902
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:45,679
thrust yeah

903
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:48,640
but it's just instantaneously and it was

904
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:50,960
like this white illumines

905
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:52,559
you know almost like an arc welder's

906
00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:54,480
light is the best i could do but from a

907
00:32:00,070 --> 00:31:57,440
distance so i didn't see any like

908
00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:00,080
disc or anything it was it was almost

909
00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:03,120
like the object was like

910
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:04,880
producing its own

911
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:08,240
energy you know like it had this power

912
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:10,480
surrounding it like an aurora or

913
00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:12,640
something and it just was

914
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:14,880
wham bam boom and it was gone it was

915
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:15,679
yeah

916
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:17,519
it's beautiful it was great you know i

917
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:19,200
wish i would have gone on that tear in

918
00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:21,120
the sky and i get to see that again i

919
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:23,360
was like wow man i heard that from you

920
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:25,440
guys now and i'm just like oh man i wish

921
00:32:29,909 --> 00:32:27,120
i could have

922
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:29,919
seeing that even on video again in some

923
00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:32,080
of these videos that come out i look i'm

924
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:35,440
like man i know these guys got some hd

925
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:38,880
for sure for sure you know some hd video

926
00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:40,799
give me something good man because if

927
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:42,640
it's a general public person that sees

928
00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:43,360
this

929
00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:46,159
i kind of have a a general idea what i'm

930
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:47,919
looking at

931
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:49,919
but if i try showing my wife she's like

932
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:52,240
what is this yeah yeah what is this

933
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:54,720
thing yeah and the famous videos

934
00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:56,159
everybody's familiar with you know the

935
00:33:00,470 --> 00:32:58,320
tic tac and the gimbal they appear to

936
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:00,480
have that fuzzy energy around them as

937
00:33:05,590 --> 00:33:03,600
well now even on infrared and maybe you

938
00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:05,600
know even better being on infrared

939
00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:07,679
because you get that heat signature and

940
00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:09,440
they don't seem to produce any they seem

941
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:11,679
to be colder than the surroundings yeah

942
00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:13,039
and you know the higher you go the

943
00:33:16,470 --> 00:33:14,559
colder it gets like in an airplane

944
00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:16,480
you're going a to b even in the summer

945
00:33:21,430 --> 00:33:19,200
it's like minus 40 outside at 80 000

946
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:21,440
feet or 40 000 feet so

947
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:24,559
you know the lack of apparent heat and

948
00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:26,720
you know no no control surfaces no

949
00:33:30,789 --> 00:33:28,640
propulsion louis lozano talks about

950
00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:30,799
those five observables you know they can

951
00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:32,799
go in between different mediums

952
00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:36,000
instantaneous acceleration not you know

953
00:33:40,630 --> 00:33:38,799
that's not supersonic or hypersonic it's

954
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:40,640
like jason said it's the speed of

955
00:33:45,269 --> 00:33:42,799
thought it's not even the speed of light

956
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:45,279
uh so the deeper we go into this thing

957
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:47,760
the more bizarre it's and then maybe

958
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:49,840
it's not even physical craft coming from

959
00:33:54,630 --> 00:33:51,760
other planet maybe it's interdimensional

960
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:54,640
and they're just phasing in and out so

961
00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:57,279
stranger now than ever

962
00:34:01,590 --> 00:33:58,640
but

963
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:01,600
you know i've always felt whether

964
00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:04,080
if it's extraterrestrial or

965
00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:06,240
terrestrial right that means here in our

966
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:07,519
planet

967
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:09,280
where are they hiding right

968
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:11,919
so they have to be hiding in our oceans

969
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:13,839
or or you know i hear things of the

970
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:15,760
mountains or

971
00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:17,599
i mean just now i mean they just found

972
00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:20,079
all those pyramids in brazil right i

973
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:22,159
mean these things can be hiding there

974
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:24,879
yeah hanging out i you know

975
00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:27,359
we'll never truly know and

976
00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:29,200
no one's an expert and you always get

977
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:31,119
all these blowbacks and

978
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:33,599
fighting on twitter or what what is what

979
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:35,919
who is who and

980
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:37,520
you know it's just a dangerous realm

981
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:38,800
sometimes

982
00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:40,240
it's

983
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:42,560
twitter's brutal i i don't know if

984
00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:45,359
you're on there a lot but it is brutal i

985
00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:47,679
read it it's the kuma tape

986
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:49,839
it's oh it's crazy like i just figured

987
00:34:52,629 --> 00:34:51,040
you put these people in the room

988
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:52,639
everybody's punching each other like

989
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:54,960
it's just so much hate um for a

990
00:34:59,670 --> 00:34:56,480
phenomenon that we're struggling to

991
00:35:02,550 --> 00:34:59,680
figure out in a minute 2017 right since

992
00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:02,560
2017 this kind of all gets disseminated

993
00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:03,920
out yeah

994
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:10,069
yeah yeah it snowballs but christina

995
00:35:13,990 --> 00:35:11,599
gomez said something recently in an

996
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:14,000
interview i was um on

997
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:15,760
david scott's uh spaced out radio and

998
00:35:18,230 --> 00:35:16,720
she mentioned you know we've been

999
00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:18,240
waiting for years

1000
00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:20,000
to have this person come out of the

1001
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:21,280
government saying

1002
00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:23,520
hey these things are real um here's some

1003
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:24,960
video evidence and i'm going to try to

1004
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:27,760
push the agenda to bring this out and

1005
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:30,160
then the minute he does he gets attacked

1006
00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:31,520
right which he knew this was going to

1007
00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:33,680
happen but i mean we're all waiting for

1008
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:35,599
him to come out to say something and he

1009
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:38,000
does and everybody turns on him like his

1010
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:40,400
credentials aren't there and even

1011
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:42,000
senator

1012
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:44,320
harry reid wrote a letter saying yes he

1013
00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:45,760
was part of this

1014
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:48,640
uh you know uh investigation and i just

1015
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,720
i feel bad for the guy because he's

1016
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:52,320
gotten attacked left right and center on

1017
00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:54,480
twitter over how about lou right yeah

1018
00:35:57,670 --> 00:35:55,280
louis

1019
00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:57,680
yeah so i i just feel bad because you

1020
00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:00,400
know like my i'm 100 with lou on this

1021
00:36:05,030 --> 00:36:02,480
one like uh i think he's

1022
00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:05,040
legitimately saw some stuff that uh he

1023
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:06,400
would like to

1024
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:07,920
see the light of day for the general

1025
00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:09,119
public you know

1026
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:12,320
i thought he was gonna uh drop out of

1027
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:14,160
this like man i

1028
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:16,720
don't care you know he's got 30 years

1029
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:17,599
more

1030
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:20,240
for for our government

1031
00:36:25,990 --> 00:36:22,000
and i thought he was just saying you

1032
00:36:27,910 --> 00:36:26,000
know what if this if you guys i'm sure

1033
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:27,920
i'm sure he has come close a few times

1034
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:30,960
yeah yeah but he's out there giving uh

1035
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:34,079
zulu foxtrots to all this and yeah i

1036
00:36:40,069 --> 00:36:37,440
think you guys know what that means and

1037
00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:40,079
he's uh still in the game so good for

1038
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:42,320
him and everyone else that's

1039
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,000
that's the beauty of this is since 2017

1040
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:48,160
even before when i started digging into

1041
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:51,520
it before uh ttsa

1042
00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:53,359
i've only had told maybe five people i

1043
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:56,480
told about five people about this

1044
00:37:01,670 --> 00:36:58,000
and it wasn't until i was reading annie

1045
00:37:02,550 --> 00:37:01,680
jacobs book of sr-71 and area 51

1046
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:02,560
and

1047
00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:11,520
the first thing i've read that i was

1048
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:12,800
into

1049
00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:14,880
i said ufo and i just started

1050
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:16,960
researching more and i only found like

1051
00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:19,760
maybe two or three podcasts

1052
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:22,240
of the subject and a lot of old school

1053
00:37:27,270 --> 00:37:24,880
uh people are still around

1054
00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:27,280
but now since then

1055
00:37:31,390 --> 00:37:29,200
the beauty of this is one thing that i

1056
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:31,400
think everyone can agree on with the

1057
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:33,920
multi-generations that we have not even

1058
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:36,720
even in our workforce but just

1059
00:37:40,390 --> 00:37:39,359
as our country

1060
00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:40,400
is that

1061
00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:42,079
we're all talking about it just like

1062
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:43,760
that young lady you mentioned christina

1063
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:45,599
gomez

1064
00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:47,200
the rogue report is another one and

1065
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:50,960
there are multi generations of videos

1066
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:52,960
and interviews with these people who are

1067
00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:54,880
all talking about it and that has really

1068
00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:57,200
expanded since 2017.

1069
00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:58,960
but sometimes you get one of those two

1070
00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:00,480
three people that just want to be the

1071
00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:03,599
one who has got it all yeah this is my

1072
00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:05,440
i've been talking about this as long as

1073
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:06,320
or

1074
00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:08,560
but you know that's just human nature i

1075
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:10,160
can give everybody

1076
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:12,160
a pie

1077
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:14,880
and not everyone's gonna like it yeah

1078
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:16,640
yeah it's the height of human ignorance

1079
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:19,040
to say there's definitely no such thing

1080
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:21,040
as aliens it's also the height of human

1081
00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:22,320
ignorance to say

1082
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:25,040
i know for sure there is so you have to

1083
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,440
have that humility and again we're

1084
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:29,599
trying to say yes or no to something we

1085
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:31,200
don't even have a clue about even if it

1086
00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:33,280
was confirmed yeah these are aliens this

1087
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:36,000
is their craft we would have no idea how

1088
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:37,440
that thing would even run like if

1089
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:39,680
they're hundreds of years thousands of

1090
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:41,520
years more advanced even millions of

1091
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:43,440
years more advanced it would be

1092
00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:45,760
indistinguishable from magic as a very

1093
00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:48,720
famous quote yeah um you know like so

1094
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:50,480
we're very good at trying to say it's

1095
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:52,800
definitely not it definitely is

1096
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:54,560
everybody needs to chill out and have

1097
00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:57,119
some humility because we don't know and

1098
00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:58,960
uh the only way we're gonna get there is

1099
00:39:01,670 --> 00:39:00,400
by sharing everybody's ideas

1100
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:01,680
collectively

1101
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:04,480
yeah definitely the cool thing of all

1102
00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:06,160
this is that um

1103
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:08,560
i've actually taken notes not there when

1104
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:10,400
i'm listening

1105
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:13,440
i've met multiple people you know

1106
00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:14,880
through life and

1107
00:39:19,030 --> 00:39:15,920
um

1108
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:19,040
just recently i was at work and uh i was

1109
00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:20,960
at the mechanics shop for

1110
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:23,839
my company it's ups

1111
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:27,119
and i was talking to them mechanics and

1112
00:39:33,190 --> 00:39:30,320
we were talking about uh you know

1113
00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:33,200
something to do with our system ups and

1114
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:34,960
i saw this alien

1115
00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:37,920
sticker on one of the mechanics uh

1116
00:39:41,829 --> 00:39:39,200
tool

1117
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:41,839
and i and i kind of look i go you

1118
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:43,520
believe in that stuff man

1119
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:45,440
and he goes uh

1120
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:47,599
kind of and he goes congress just

1121
00:39:51,190 --> 00:39:49,200
talking about a state

1122
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:51,200
and i looked at and go oh

1123
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:53,440
you do you're really into this stuff and

1124
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:55,200
he goes yeah yeah i just kind of really

1125
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:56,960
started

1126
00:40:00,550 --> 00:39:59,119
and i was like hey um

1127
00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:00,560
i kind of don't go around saying i was

1128
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:03,119
like why don't you youtube my name and

1129
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:05,200
he goes excuse me

1130
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:06,960
and you know he jumped on his phone he

1131
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:08,640
looked and he goes you're on the mimics

1132
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:17,510
he began to tell me why he was into it

1133
00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:20,560
he had a siding as a young man this

1134
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:22,800
guy's uh about a little bit younger than

1135
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:25,359
me so he's in his late 30s i'm 45 this

1136
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:30,309
he was 12 years old he had a siding

1137
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:32,880
east west texas heading home to go see

1138
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:36,480
his grandmother and he saw a triangle

1139
00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:38,400
and on the bottom he said he saw like

1140
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:42,079
this white uh bulb half a half dome and

1141
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:44,560
the triangle had you know lights at each

1142
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:46,240
point

1143
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:48,079
and it was hovering

1144
00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:50,079
um and it took off he was with his

1145
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:51,680
youngest cousins they saw it too they

1146
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:54,640
still talk about it to this day

1147
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:56,319
and then fast forward maybe about a

1148
00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:58,560
couple weeks ago um

1149
00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:00,960
i was at my in-laws house

1150
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:04,160
and they found out also that i was on

1151
00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:06,079
unidentified

1152
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:07,440
and um

1153
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:10,079
this is this strange thing i hear these

1154
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:11,359
stories

1155
00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:12,960
from multiple people who are from the

1156
00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:14,240
country

1157
00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:15,680
meaning um

1158
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:18,560
you know rural country farmland

1159
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,960
she said the same thing

1160
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:22,880
that she saw a triangle

1161
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:25,200
with a a bulb at the bottom and it was

1162
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:27,599
white and they had lights on each corner

1163
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:29,839
and i just was like holy these people

1164
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:31,760
don't know each other right and i know

1165
00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:35,280
they're not intertwined with this

1166
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:36,880
and then when they tell me these stories

1167
00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:38,800
you can feel that

1168
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:40,480
they're talking to someone who has also

1169
00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:41,760
seen something so it almost feels like

1170
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:43,119
they're getting something lifted off

1171
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:45,440
their shoulders or their chest

1172
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:48,480
it's like a me too movement um but with

1173
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:50,960
ufos right yeah and i keep saying that

1174
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:52,960
it's like it's now time for the people

1175
00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:54,800
that have had these experiences to come

1176
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:57,280
out and say me too like i've had this

1177
00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:58,400
experience

1178
00:42:02,069 --> 00:41:59,680
and yeah

1179
00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:02,079
even i joke around this quite a bit but

1180
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:03,440
you know once people find out that you

1181
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:05,200
are into ufos and you take it seriously

1182
00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:07,200
they're all like oh man let me tell you

1183
00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:09,040
this you know like either i've had a

1184
00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:10,560
sighting or my grandfather had a

1185
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:12,720
sighting everybody knows somebody that's

1186
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:14,160
had a sighting

1187
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:16,240
it's just once the they can figure out

1188
00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:18,000
that you will take it seriously then

1189
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:20,079
they're willing to share it with you but

1190
00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:21,599
i think we're all conditioned to be like

1191
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:23,520
ufos hahaha

1192
00:42:27,109 --> 00:42:25,280
you believe in that stuff like even if

1193
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:27,119
you believe in yourself you're sort of

1194
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:28,960
like

1195
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:31,040
conditioned to say that to people almost

1196
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:32,800
right but we're getting to a point where

1197
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:35,040
it's like damn rights i wear it probably

1198
00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:37,280
i put a bumper sticker on my car like i

1199
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:39,280
don't care i believe in that i don't

1200
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:41,200
care who knows about it right i haven't

1201
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:43,920
shut up about it since i was like 13 so

1202
00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:46,240
i'm not about to now it's too late

1203
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:47,839
well that's what omar just said you know

1204
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:49,520
he sees the sticker on the mechanics

1205
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:51,359
toolbox he's like hey man you believe in

1206
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:53,599
that stuff knowing full well that you

1207
00:43:03,270 --> 00:42:56,319
were on the tv shows and on the nimitz

1208
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:05,030
so we all have that filter first you

1209
00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:06,960
know like we tell our friends like what

1210
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:08,560
do you mean you guys have an alien show

1211
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:10,240
yeah and then we show them and they're

1212
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:12,480
like oh wow like well yeah i believe in

1213
00:43:16,150 --> 00:43:14,000
that and i think maybe it's this and

1214
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:16,160
that and we're now safe and they can

1215
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:17,520
share and i think that's a big

1216
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:18,720
compliment

1217
00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:20,720
definitely i mean even uh after my

1218
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:23,680
siding i told about four to five people

1219
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:25,920
man i got laughed at i told my closest

1220
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:27,200
buddies

1221
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:28,800
you're full of [\h__\h]

1222
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:31,680
general quarters what

1223
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:34,319
and uh even now that it's out there you

1224
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:36,160
would think i'd be like man look i saw

1225
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:38,240
this i was on this tv show

1226
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:40,400
no i'm kind of just

1227
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:43,280
mellowed about it i'll let someone bring

1228
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:45,119
it up or or

1229
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:47,440
there are people at the at the job site

1230
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:50,000
that do follow this stuff and they'll

1231
00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:51,119
send me

1232
00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:53,599
ancient alien stuff and you know just

1233
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:55,200
cool things that

1234
00:43:58,309 --> 00:43:56,800
they like to see and they always ask

1235
00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:58,319
about it and

1236
00:44:02,069 --> 00:44:00,640
it's the top of the conversation but

1237
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:02,079
you're right i mean

1238
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:03,760
as we were saying earlier

1239
00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:06,000
it is out in the open

1240
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:08,560
but it's almost like that subculture

1241
00:44:11,829 --> 00:44:09,440
yeah

1242
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:11,839
you either have to be a believer or an

1243
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:13,440
experiencer

1244
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:17,280
for someone possibly to open up or ask

1245
00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:19,920
yeah of the subject matter because

1246
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:23,440
after i got uh put out there in 2017

1247
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:25,760
and then when mr commander fravor came

1248
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:26,960
out

1249
00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:30,000
and now uh i think it's a young lady uh

1250
00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:32,640
dietrich yeah alex

1251
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:34,560
yeah that's awesome yeah

1252
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:36,880
i sent uh all these videos of them doing

1253
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:38,640
their interviews to those five that

1254
00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:40,240
group of five people with my middle

1255
00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:42,240
finger up and i was like

1256
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:44,640
i told you that something was going on

1257
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:46,400
yeah and that's what i did to my buddy

1258
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:49,119
rick palmer too in the beginning

1259
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:51,280
but he he didn't really reply to any of

1260
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:54,560
it and it was kind of very quiet but uh

1261
00:45:11,829 --> 00:44:55,440
i

1262
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:11,839
so what are your thoughts on the

1263
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:14,800
congress hearings so we've we've had uh

1264
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:16,560
what one or two i think at this point

1265
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:18,880
yes uh and they showed this really fast

1266
00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:20,880
clip which we all like everybody every

1267
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:22,960
you follow just makes fun of because

1268
00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:25,040
they didn't have the you know

1269
00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:27,359
a still of the picture you know i think

1270
00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:30,319
the the object is only like one frame

1271
00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:32,160
within the whole shot and they couldn't

1272
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:33,280
even zoom in

1273
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:35,280
correct yeah yeah it's just a really

1274
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:37,040
fast uh moving object just like well

1275
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:38,560
this is what we get

1276
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:40,000
these are the reports we get and i'm

1277
00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:42,160
like [\h__\h] i bet you guys have way

1278
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,880
better footage than this right uh but do

1279
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:46,560
you think that's just a way for them to

1280
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:48,319
sort of ease the public saying look you

1281
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,240
know we're looking into this but

1282
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:52,560
see how fast these things fly was really

1283
00:45:55,589 --> 00:45:53,440
no

1284
00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:55,599
uh pure evidence at this point do you

1285
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:57,839
think it's just a ploy for the the the

1286
00:46:02,309 --> 00:46:00,640
people or is just to put us on basically

1287
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:02,319
just on the bench to wait for better

1288
00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:04,480
stuff

1289
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:06,079
probably a combination i think it is

1290
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:08,160
like a little sprinkle

1291
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:10,480
throughout our society but it just kind

1292
00:46:14,230 --> 00:46:11,200
of

1293
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:14,240
i think for us like do we really need

1294
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:16,400
our world governments to

1295
00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:18,319
tell us what yeah

1296
00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:19,839
some of us probably

1297
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:23,280
do believe in and what we know is true

1298
00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:24,480
that's the kind of

1299
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:28,000
uh pushback i get is like

1300
00:46:31,750 --> 00:46:29,280
why do you have to

1301
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:31,760
believe the government yeah you know why

1302
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:33,280
do you have to have the government tell

1303
00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:34,560
you

1304
00:46:41,829 --> 00:46:40,240
societies

1305
00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:41,839
are you guys are you guys both in the

1306
00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:43,599
states correct uh we're in british

1307
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:46,240
columbia canada yeah okay okay so yeah

1308
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:48,319
you know we share the same

1309
00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:50,480
you know free thinking we can wake up

1310
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:52,240
and say you know what these things are

1311
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:54,800
all angels or are these all entities

1312
00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:56,880
from hell or

1313
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:59,440
these things are from brazil you know

1314
00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:00,960
and yeah

1315
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:02,079
it's like

1316
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:04,240
we're such a free thinking uh

1317
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:06,960
part of the planet that

1318
00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:08,800
you know sometimes i wonder like why do

1319
00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:10,560
we need them

1320
00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:13,119
to give us an explanation on what this

1321
00:47:18,309 --> 00:47:16,400
is you know i i honestly think it's

1322
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,319
it'll probably

1323
00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:20,880
descend not disseminate but

1324
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:23,599
maybe not crumble but just kind of edge

1325
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:25,359
some of the

1326
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:28,640
religious beliefs we have out there yeah

1327
00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:30,960
because uh

1328
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:33,119
you know we're all taught at one point

1329
00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:35,359
in time i'm not a religious person but

1330
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:37,599
you know there's people out there that

1331
00:47:43,589 --> 00:47:39,839
you know hey this is jesus this is god

1332
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:43,599
or or something of a higher power

1333
00:47:46,549 --> 00:47:45,520
protecting us humans

1334
00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:46,559
but this

1335
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:49,040
these objects and these technologies

1336
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:49,920
it's

1337
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:51,760
kind of beats that

1338
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:54,240
i hope i'm saying that correctly

1339
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:57,119
it kind of puts a an edge and a cut

1340
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:58,319
through maybe

1341
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:01,119
specific religious belief systems and

1342
00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:04,000
i've heard that that even mr lozano got

1343
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:05,440
pushed back

1344
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:07,599
when he was debriefing somebody and the

1345
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:09,520
guy tells him hey

1346
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:12,000
have you read your bible

1347
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:14,400
you know he i heard that i listened to a

1348
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:15,839
lot of his interviews and he said

1349
00:48:19,270 --> 00:48:17,440
something really

1350
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:19,280
interesting he said

1351
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:21,839
the truth whispers if he just listens so

1352
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:23,200
he's always kind of throwing these

1353
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:26,400
little tiny crumbs out there

1354
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:27,200
and

1355
00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:29,760
he always said the major pushback he got

1356
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:31,839
was from um

1357
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:33,040
the uh

1358
00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:35,760
the old guard so to say i got that from

1359
00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:38,000
vineyard or the uk the old guard in

1360
00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:39,200
their

1361
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:41,680
staunch belief on you know maybe our

1362
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:44,160
religious standards and i mean even in

1363
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:46,480
our politics now i mean yeah

1364
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:48,720
the role versus way thing is you know

1365
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:51,040
one thing about god and

1366
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:53,520
but i don't want to go there that's it

1367
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:55,599
forget that i can i can comment as

1368
00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:57,440
somebody who is a spiritual believer i

1369
00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:59,839
was raised in a quote-unquote religious

1370
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:01,520
family we weren't out you know preaching

1371
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:03,119
to other people or knocking on people's

1372
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:06,400
doors but we believed and i i don't see

1373
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:09,280
it as a conflict in fact if there were

1374
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:12,240
aliens that would reinforce god quote

1375
00:49:17,190 --> 00:49:14,240
unquote whatever that looks like because

1376
00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:17,200
yeah it would prove that this is a love

1377
00:49:22,870 --> 00:49:21,040
only force a creating only force nothing

1378
00:49:25,589 --> 00:49:22,880
but positivity so

1379
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:25,599
what would say that yeah god loves so

1380
00:49:29,589 --> 00:49:27,760
much that there's creatures in life

1381
00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:29,599
everywhere why would it just be limited

1382
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:33,359
to here and i think when we get too

1383
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:35,680
religiously political and we focus on

1384
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:38,960
the hierarchy and man-made rules when it

1385
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:42,160
comes to the application of belief i.e

1386
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:44,240
religion that's when things kind of get

1387
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:46,000
screwed up you now have people playing

1388
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:49,040
god saying this is true this is not true

1389
00:49:52,870 --> 00:49:50,720
the bible doesn't say this or doesn't

1390
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:52,880
say that well the bible if you believe

1391
00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:54,960
it the bible has a creation story as

1392
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:57,119
does all major religion but it doesn't

1393
00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:58,480
say this is the only

1394
00:50:01,910 --> 00:50:01,040
world this is just the story of our

1395
00:50:04,549 --> 00:50:01,920
world

1396
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,559
so it doesn't refute any of this and if

1397
00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:07,200
i don't i honestly don't see how if

1398
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:09,440
you're religious and you find out aliens

1399
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:11,680
are real that's gonna screw everything

1400
00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:13,520
up i don't get it i don't think it would

1401
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:15,280
i think it would reinforce it like hell

1402
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:17,760
yeah proof that god exists look he's

1403
00:50:22,069 --> 00:50:19,920
created all kinds of stuff you know so

1404
00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:22,079
yeah um i think it's when you come from

1405
00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:25,280
a faction that is very rigid and very

1406
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:26,800
hey if you don't believe that to the

1407
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,720
word or to the dot

1408
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:30,480
you're you're a deviant and you're

1409
00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:33,040
missing it i think we get too wrapped up

1410
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:35,440
in like looking at the forest this close

1411
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:38,000
we're not seeing the entire picture and

1412
00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:40,000
anytime man is trying to speak for god

1413
00:50:43,349 --> 00:50:41,680
that's a problem so

1414
00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:43,359
for me this is my own personal opinion

1415
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:44,960
in my two cents and that's about all

1416
00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:47,440
it's worth but my two senses it would

1417
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:49,680
encourage that it would prove even more

1418
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:52,160
so there is other creation besides us

1419
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:54,240
because if we don't really understand

1420
00:50:58,309 --> 00:50:56,160
our own creation how are we then going

1421
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:58,319
to understand other things creation and

1422
00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:00,640
like do aliens believe in god it just

1423
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:03,680
gets this giant wormhole but uh i think

1424
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:06,400
it would more reinforce than than damage

1425
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:08,000
oh that's a it's a beautiful thought

1426
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:10,559
that's beautiful well said you're you're

1427
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:12,800
you're correct

1428
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:15,520
it um

1429
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:16,720
you know i really don't have anything

1430
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:19,839
else on that i i truly believe whatever

1431
00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:21,520
it is

1432
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:22,400
it

1433
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:26,720
but i've always felt like man like we

1434
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:29,200
said earlier if they wanted to mess with

1435
00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:31,599
us they could have done a millennia ago

1436
00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:33,599
yeah to me it's an advanced

1437
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:35,280
consciousness that's what they are

1438
00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:37,680
they're advanced i hear that too yeah

1439
00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:39,839
consciousness yeah like uh they

1440
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:42,160
say that all the time to abductees or

1441
00:51:47,109 --> 00:51:44,720
like even to the kids in aerial school

1442
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,119
like the advanced in consciousness the

1443
00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:48,960
fact that this little entity is able to

1444
00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:51,200
talk to each one of the kids

1445
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:53,599
individually just by looking at them

1446
00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:55,119
like that's an amazing thing

1447
00:51:59,109 --> 00:51:57,119
telepathically right

1448
00:52:01,270 --> 00:51:59,119
each kid got a different feeling or

1449
00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:01,280
different vision from these things that

1450
00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:03,520
is an elevated consciousness that's able

1451
00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:05,520
to talk to lower consciousness so that's

1452
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:07,200
i think that's one of the aspects of

1453
00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:09,119
ufology that

1454
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:11,599
you know is starting to for me come to

1455
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:13,359
the surface is because i didn't believe

1456
00:52:17,430 --> 00:52:15,440
in that before and the whole ce5 and

1457
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:17,440
stuff like that that people are doing

1458
00:52:20,390 --> 00:52:19,440
but i'm starting to put to two and two

1459
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:20,400
together and even when we're talking

1460
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:22,079
about how the the crafts move at the

1461
00:52:25,349 --> 00:52:23,280
speed of thought well that's just

1462
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:25,359
consciousness right so the fact we're

1463
00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:26,480
dealing with

1464
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:28,240
consciousness that is not human that is

1465
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:30,079
something different that's the exciting

1466
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:30,880
part

1467
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:32,960
right because how how different are they

1468
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:34,640
thinking like you know how different are

1469
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:36,480
their thoughts from ours right

1470
00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:38,079
uh and that's how they're able to come

1471
00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:39,520
up with the technology that they have

1472
00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:41,359
they don't see things the way that we do

1473
00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:43,280
we're i think quite limited

1474
00:52:48,549 --> 00:52:45,680
in our brain capacity our understanding

1475
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:48,559
of technology well these things

1476
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:50,160
maybe are prone to be more

1477
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:52,160
scientifically awakened than we are and

1478
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:54,240
understand things to be able to

1479
00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:56,160
manipulate physics and

1480
00:53:01,030 --> 00:52:58,079
materials in ways that we can't that's

1481
00:53:02,710 --> 00:53:01,040
why they're able to go through 80 000

1482
00:53:05,109 --> 00:53:02,720
feet to down to five feet above the

1483
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:05,119
water or right into the water um even

1484
00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:06,240
louie you were mentioning they were

1485
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:07,520
going up to

1486
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:10,480
500 kilometers 500 plus miles an hour

1487
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:12,880
underwater and our best torpedoes are

1488
00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:15,119
just around 200 or slightly over 200

1489
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:17,520
miles an hour so yeah and i mean water

1490
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:19,359
is a totally different medium from air

1491
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:22,079
or at the atmosphere you know so it's

1492
00:53:26,829 --> 00:53:24,720
way more viscous the pressures are huge

1493
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:26,839
if you're going 500 miles an hour in the

1494
00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:30,000
water before long you're at a depth that

1495
00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:31,920
we would need special rovers to even be

1496
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:34,160
at so it just doesn't seem to affect

1497
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:36,640
them no matter what medium it's going

1498
00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:38,160
through and that's that's one of the

1499
00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:40,000
five observables that lou elizondo

1500
00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:41,599
pointed out on his show

1501
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:44,160
yeah yeah they've really focused that uh

1502
00:53:49,030 --> 00:53:46,960
fire observables for my show

1503
00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:49,040
from my initial interview from there

1504
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:50,480
yeah

1505
00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:52,880
i remember uh i mean my interview was up

1506
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:55,440
four hours long closer

1507
00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:57,119
i think it was like two and a half three

1508
00:54:01,270 --> 00:54:00,319
hours long oh wow yeah they they really

1509
00:54:02,870 --> 00:54:01,280
uh

1510
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:02,880
cramped it in i guess it was like six to

1511
00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:05,200
seven minutes of tv time but right isn't

1512
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:06,240
that weird

1513
00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:08,559
yeah i think they kind of were getting a

1514
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:11,119
lot more other information

1515
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:13,040
um

1516
00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:14,240
i guess

1517
00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:16,000
from you know the other perspective of

1518
00:54:20,309 --> 00:54:18,720
the individuals that were next to me

1519
00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:20,319
and what happened and

1520
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:21,520
and you know just kind of like what i'm

1521
00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:23,599
disseminating now to you guys their

1522
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:26,720
reactions and the public's reaction

1523
00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:27,440
but

1524
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:29,520
well one thing i do remember is uh they

1525
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:31,440
were late

1526
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,319
i showed up 15 minutes early

1527
00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:36,480
and then it didn't start to another four

1528
00:54:39,829 --> 00:54:38,480
about 30 minutes after i was supposed to

1529
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:39,839
be there

1530
00:54:43,510 --> 00:54:42,000
and i sat down and they had this big old

1531
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:43,520
camera in my face and the first thing

1532
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:44,960
the young lady said she goes i'm really

1533
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:47,520
sorry i'm late i said ma'am

1534
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:50,160
i've been waiting 17 years to tell this

1535
00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:52,079
and i looked at this thing i go now this

1536
00:55:01,270 --> 00:54:59,030
yeah it's got to be a good feeling to be

1537
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:01,280
able to get that off your chest and

1538
00:55:06,309 --> 00:55:03,760
uh i was nervous even

1539
00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:06,319
even to this day i even i still get

1540
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:09,680
nervous uh talking about it i i try to

1541
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:12,559
figure out why and

1542
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:14,160
you know but

1543
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:15,839
great shows such as yourselves and you

1544
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:18,720
guys with the intro you guys gave me and

1545
00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:20,880
you just kind of ease into the process

1546
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:22,400
because

1547
00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:24,000
even like i said i don't really go

1548
00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:25,839
around saying hey look i was on this

1549
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:27,520
look at this look at this i saw this

1550
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:30,400
right it's still not easy really to talk

1551
00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:32,880
about it sometimes

1552
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:34,799
nice well we thank you for coming on the

1553
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:36,480
show because that's uh that's a huge

1554
00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:38,880
deal for sure i appreciate it we like

1555
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:40,640
people that are credible people have had

1556
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:43,680
uh legitimate uh experiences and most of

1557
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:45,920
all encourage the any personnel in the

1558
00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:47,200
military that

1559
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:49,040
if you've seen something yeah come

1560
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:51,520
forward right that's really the military

1561
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:53,920
personnel it's you guys that are helping

1562
00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:55,760
the disclosure because you know we

1563
00:55:59,349 --> 00:55:57,280
listen to you guys during service and

1564
00:56:01,670 --> 00:55:59,359
you're saying look during service

1565
00:56:03,589 --> 00:56:01,680
this is what we experience um you know

1566
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:03,599
you got my full attention at that point

1567
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:05,040
like you know i

1568
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:06,720
believe you're

1569
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:08,160
like i said you're a credible witness

1570
00:56:12,390 --> 00:56:10,400
you know exactly what you're looking for

1571
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:12,400
so yeah that for louis and i that was a

1572
00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:14,160
no-brainer we'd like we have to have

1573
00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:16,319
this guy on for sure

1574
00:56:20,069 --> 00:56:18,079
do you have any questions for our our

1575
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:20,079
guest no i just want to say again big

1576
00:56:24,069 --> 00:56:21,680
thanks to omar for coming on our show we

1577
00:56:26,710 --> 00:56:24,079
appreciate it uh you're solid dude

1578
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:26,720
you're again very brave and uh if you

1579
00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:29,200
can be uh an example to other colleagues

1580
00:56:32,309 --> 00:56:31,119
that are questionable whether they

1581
00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:32,319
should say something or not say

1582
00:56:36,789 --> 00:56:34,160
something i hope they they follow your

1583
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:36,799
example because uh um you know without

1584
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:38,640
that this disclosure doesn't move

1585
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:41,280
forward and uh it's just civilians

1586
00:56:44,789 --> 00:56:42,960
talking and that's what it's been for 80

1587
00:56:46,789 --> 00:56:44,799
years so you guys really took it to the

1588
00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:46,799
next level i can't thank you enough for

1589
00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:48,799
being on the show man and i appreciate

1590
00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:50,720
thank you for having me on guys anytime

1591
00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:52,640
and just before we uh close i just want

1592
00:56:57,750 --> 00:56:55,440
to say uh hello to rainey from cuba or

1593
00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:57,760
renee from cuba i don't know quite how

1594
00:57:01,670 --> 00:56:59,280
to pronounce the name i haven't heard it

1595
00:57:03,670 --> 00:57:01,680
audibly yet but uh listener of the

1596
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:03,680
program and real big supporter of the

1597
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:06,079
program so we appreciate it my man omar

1598
00:57:09,829 --> 00:57:07,680
laura we thank you so much for coming on

1599
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:09,839
the podcast is there a place people can

1600
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:11,680
find you online like are you on twitter

1601
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:13,359
facebook

1602
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:15,040
uh twitter

1603
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:17,440
i kind of just dub into that twitter

1604
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:20,240
just to see what's going on and what

1605
00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:22,000
twitter would be the easiest it'll be

1606
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:23,599
the easiest one and what's your what's

1607
00:57:32,309 --> 00:57:28,000
your tag on uh on twitter oh geez let me

1608
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:32,319
uh it's eternal 99 eternal 99 yeah

1609
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:33,680
perfect all right guys so i would

1610
00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:36,480
encourage you to follow omar on twitter

1611
00:57:39,829 --> 00:57:38,319
and omar once again thank you so much

1612
00:57:41,589 --> 00:57:39,839
for coming on the podcast my man we

1613
00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:41,599
really appreciate it german thank you it

1614
00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:43,119
was great i appreciate it thank you so

1615
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:45,280
much enjoy the rest of your day and take